tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4207104964364625407.post7074514882499961560..comments2023-10-30T04:30:12.157-04:00Comments on Greater Things: Interesting take on Evagelicalism - could be pretty much on the markRichiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13881230265229573720noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4207104964364625407.post-48919790254618257922009-03-16T14:23:00.000-04:002009-03-16T14:23:00.000-04:00It was I. I added the B. realizing the potential ...It was I. I added the B. realizing the potential confusion. :)Timothy Bisulcahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01064622201910417943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4207104964364625407.post-42121169882735574732009-03-13T08:54:00.000-04:002009-03-13T08:54:00.000-04:00I think one of the reasons for the return to the M...I think one of the reasons for the return to the Mass is the majesty and aura of the event. Evangelicals have pretty much rejected any liturgy in an effort to separate from any form of routine and tradition. That said don't we have our own? <BR/><BR/>Look at the worship in the temple -- incense; singing; offerings; sacrifices (we don't do those animal sacrifices anymore but its a form of offerings)repetitive liturgy (look at the throne room worship in Revelation)<BR/><BR/>I think there is something to be said about that. Take a look at Revelation Song led by Kari Jobe on youtube - Gateway worship version. Picture that song sung in one a European cathedral lit only with candlelight.Terryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09139278597939314142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4207104964364625407.post-34078369479145798842009-03-11T13:06:00.000-04:002009-03-11T13:06:00.000-04:00I'm glad you added the B. to your name Tim. I was...I'm glad you added the B. to your name Tim. I was confused which Tim the first one was. Was that you, just pre-B? Or was that Tim M.?Chadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00854137759119468513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4207104964364625407.post-36031837587147981532009-03-11T13:01:00.000-04:002009-03-11T13:01:00.000-04:00An interesting addendum to Chad's note is the incr...An interesting addendum to Chad's note is the increase in young people attending Catholic Churches that have returned to a Latin Mass. Sure it's not hip, but I agree with Chad that young people today want someting genuine, not just appealing.Timothy Bisulcahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01064622201910417943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4207104964364625407.post-67792622863126145842009-03-10T20:24:00.000-04:002009-03-10T20:24:00.000-04:00I think the challenge I took away from this is the...I think the challenge I took away from this is the title of my recent talks: "Be the Church". It goes to the heart of what Tim mentions - the church is not a building but a community. I believe CBC has captured the vision of Being the Church and getting out and showing the community the love of Christ through our deeds and then we have the opportunity to share why we are doing those. The church functions in smaller groups as well as our times of celebration of corporate worship.<BR/><BR/>Lets show what true evangelicalism is -- its not being politically active and cramming our own convictions down on folks but loving the community in ones and twos...Terryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09139278597939314142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4207104964364625407.post-47386101441315674092009-03-10T15:07:00.000-04:002009-03-10T15:07:00.000-04:00Yea... despite the article's conclusion about how ...Yea... despite the article's conclusion about how the church thrives in times like these, it's a pretty pessimistic outlook.<BR/><BR/>Being a young person (still, thankfully) in the church now, I think my observations about this generation are a bit different than his. The church body is definitely getting smaller, but I think that the young members are perhaps stronger in their faith on average than some other generations. A lot less "fluff". Not that there weren't people with really strong faith in other generations, because there certainly were. But since the climate is so anti-Christian values now-a-days, most of the people who are around are ones with growing / or stronger faith to begin with.Chadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00854137759119468513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4207104964364625407.post-82092586681154437702009-03-10T14:52:00.000-04:002009-03-10T14:52:00.000-04:00This article makes some excellant points and also ...This article makes some excellant points and also some good food for thought. It is odd in some of its inconsistancies, however, which I may refer to in a later post. <BR/><BR/>The point I would like to make is that in this, as well as many other articles on the "church", secular as well as Christian, there seems to be a confusion as to what the church is. The church is not an institution, building or denomination. The church is a community that exists within the heart of every believer. If I were to go to Africa and meet with a believer, and we have the connection of Christ, that is the church. So while the "church" may shrink, the true church, that community of Christ, will continue to grow. The article asked whether there was hope, and there is. As Christians, we know that Christ is always working in the hearts of men to draw them to himself and his community of believers, and that this church will always grow.Timothy Bisulcahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01064622201910417943noreply@blogger.com